This is a cautionary tale about a company I used to be a brand evangelist for, but am now teetering on the edge of disgruntled. I have been wearing Levi’s jeans since I was a little boy. They always fit, they last a long time… they’re just damn good jeans. I can’t explain the overall value of a pair of Levi’s – it’s not the cost. They’re not cheap (though not expensive by today’s standards of “good jeans” either). It’s just something about them, something American, that always spoke of quality and service.
On November 20, I placed an order for three pair of Levi’s 559, size 33×34. I’ve lost a bit of weight, so my 34×34 jeans are a little baggy. I have already owned several pair of the style 559 jeans, and have been very pleased with them. About a week later, I received the jeans and tried them on to find that one of the three pair didn’t fit. They were extremely tight (I couldn’t even get them close to buttoned), but the other two pair (exact same style and size) fit perfectly. I thought, “must be a manufacturing defect.”
“No problem, I’ll just exchange them,” I thought to myself. I called Levi’s and explained how they were way too small and how it had to be a manufacturing error, since I had several pair of the same style and size that fit perfectly. The customer service representative instructed me to send the jeans back using a prepaid return label, and a new pair was on the way to me. Great!
Several weeks later, I was shocked to notice a credit on my credit card for the jeans I returned. I immediately picked up the phone and called Levi’s customer support to see what happened. I didn’t want a credit, I wanted my jeans! I got a semi-helpful representative who told me that she would look into it and put in a request to get my replacement jeans shipped and the credit reversed. A month passed with no jeans and no contact from Levi’s.
I called Levi’s only to get a confused representative on the phone who insisted Levi’s “did not do exchanges” but only issued a credit. I would have to reorder my jeans, she insisted. When I looked at the website, the same jeans I’d ordered prior to Christmas for around $30 a pair (on sale) were now $60 a pair plus tax and shipping. After arguing that the jeans were incorrectly sized, and the return should have been an exchange in the first place she explained the “exchange process” at Levi’s.
Here is the process a customer must go through to exchange an item at Levi’s according to their own customer service representative:
- Place order (online or phone)
- Receive order in mail
- Contact Levi’s to initiate exchange (paperwork in box only covers returning for credit)
- Send package back to Levi’s
- Get credit on card for returned item less return shipping
- Call Levi’s and place re-order (most likely for more than original item)
- Request credit for difference
Does that process seem a little convoluted and impractical? I had now called Levi’s a total of 5 times, in addition to several customer service emails. I wasn’t happy but I placed a reorder over the phone, charging over $60 to my card (the representative was nice enough to waive shipping charges.)
I started to get a little nervous, because the representative explained the return/exchange process and instructed me to place a reorder before knowing exactly what credit (if any) would be issued. I reluctantly placed the order anyway, but then the representative quoted Levi’s policy, something like “Do you authorize Levi’s to charge your card for $XX.XX? After an order has been placed, it cannot be changed or cancelled.”
That makes me feel at ease… talk me into ordering the jeans again at full price, then tell me I can’t cancel or change the order even though I still don’t know if I can get a credit for the difference.
Well, a week later the jeans arrived. I was excited to have the whole ordeal just over with… so I thought. The replacement jeans didn’t fit either. I cringed at the thought of another interaction with Levi’s customer service. At this point, I was willing to send them back for a partial refund just to be done with it. I’d rather go to a store and buy a pair of jeans!
I called customer service again and this time got a pretty nice representative. I explained briefly what happened with the orders, the problems I had so far, and that I just wanted to be done with it. Amazingly, he said he’d ship me another pair of jeans immediately, and would email me a prepaid return label to send mine back. Sure enough, 5 minutes after I got off the phone with him, I had two emails: a receipt for my replacement jeans (pair #3) and an email label from UPS to return the second pair of mis-sized jeans. In just a couple of days I received the jeans and they fit well.
Why So Complicated?
As an e-commerce store owner, I am absolutely amazed at how complicated Levi’s has made the process of exchanging an order, especially when it was a manufacturing defect that caused the error. After talking with more than 5 different customer representative, I was explained (in detail) three completely different return/exchange policies.
It’s completely possible that Levi’s employees simply don’t understand the policies and procedures… which is the main reason I didn’t include any names in this post. It’s not necessarily their fault. Had I received one representative that didn’t understand policies, I would think they were simply new or imcompetent… but after speaking with countless representative it was clear there were serious problems with the policies and the organization itself. There was absolutely no consistency in my interactions with the ccompany. The only consistent was chaos.
Lessons to Learn
Levi’s, please understand I’m a huge fan of your products but I will never buy direct from you again. It was my worst online retail experience, and I buy almost exclusively online. As an e-commerce business owner I have taken this opportunity to take a serious look at our own customer service policies. Are we making returns or exchanges difficult on our customers? Are our return and exchange policies simple and easy to follow (for both customers and employees)?
So what lessons did I learn about this experience?
- Make returns and exchanges easy for your customers, even if that makes it more difficult for you.
- Make policies so simple, it’s easy for employees to understand and convey them to your customers.
- Make sure your employees understand policies and procedures. Quiz them… often.
- Above all else, make it right. Take care of the customer.
I don’t remember when exactly it happened. but Levi’s changed.
Whenever it was (maybe 10 years ago) they began a transition from quality to cheap. They still aren’t bottom of the barrel, but it is a lower quality product than you would have bought 20 years ago, and I’d imagine that attitude permeates all aspects of their behavior.
Hey, worked for Sears, right?
I had a rather similar experience today with Levi’s.
I too have been wearing Levi’s for what seems like forever. Recently the qulity of the jeans has been very poor. In the last year alone I have purchased six pair of Levi’s jeans. Two pair of 36-32 size are only 30″ inseams…those are going back to Levi’s )more on that shortly); another pair has a 6″ x 3″ wide area of thread snags that appeared about a month after buying; and a third has a twisted cloth on the leg so the jean leg twists slightly. I am guessing these are all related to production problems over seas and poor quality control issues.
Today I made the call, after being tired of wasting my money at $35/pair. I am sending back the two pair that are short in the inseam by 1 1/2″ compared to the other pairs. I fully explained te situation to the very nice representative and she said she would send me a return form and that I should ship the jeans back by mail…at my expense. I asked if I would be reimbursed once the sizing issue was observed and was told “No.” I stated that I shouldn’t be paying for the shipping for a defective product and I asked for a manager.
The manager was also polite and once I started to get into it and requested the contact address for the person above her, I was provided a return shipping label for postage. I then asked why it was necessary to waste an additional ten minutes of my time to get what rightfully should have been provided to me in the first place. She stated that customer reps are not permitted to provide shipping, but she was at the supervisory level. What the hell kind of logic is that? You sell a defect product that never should have gotten through quality control inspections and they expect me to pay for shipping to get a replacement. Don’t sell defective item and shipping costs won’
After a couple of minutes she stateed she would provide a return shipping label.
@Levissucksnow – Thanks for sharing your experience. I have a couple pair of Levi’s that got twisted and the seams don’t fall straight down the sides… drives me crazy!
I’ve just stopped buying them. I’d rather pay $20 more for a really good pair of jeans. I’ve tried a few brands and really like Lucky jeans when I can find them on sale.
I also have a pair that frayed and now has a hole in an unfortunate location. They were about 2 months old when it happened and had only been worn 5-6 times. Weak sauce! I haven’t tried to return them yet but I’m not looking forward to it…
I’m a first time and now last time customer of Levi.com:
Beware when you order merchandise from Levis.com. Their returns policy will cost you money. If you need to do an even exchange you will have to pay the $7.00 shipping charge to return the original item even though you also paid the shipping to receive the item you ordered.
http://customerisright.tumblr.com/post/12196471131/beware-of-levi-com-lousy-returns-policy
Glad to hear I’m not the only one who has experienced this. I’m still endlessly annoyed because the jeans fit better than any other jeans I’ve ever worn…when they fit. I wish they’d get this under control. They’d have more of my business for sure.
Thanks for all you stories and comments guys. I realized that I am not going to start any “problem” with LEVI’s customer service. I’ve got two pair of jean. One was just perfect but other had unpicked edge. I was eager to put them so I just sewed them. I also realized that I am nod going to have any deals with LEVI’s online service anymore.
Policy has not changed.
Order 2 pairs of jeans, same style, same size, different colors.
Jeans arrive with one pair darker than the picture.
I want to exchange for a lighter color.
Conversation with Customer Service (CS):
Me: Hi I ordered these jeans and the color is too dark. I want to exchange them for a different color.
CS: No problem. Just ship them back and will credit you for the return. Then go to Levis.com and reorder.
Me: Ok. Will the price be the same?
CS: We can price match and give a one time credit.
Me: Ok, so I will get the new pair at the same price of $40?
CS: What is your order number?
Me: XXXXXX
CS: Oh you bought these jeans with a 30% off sale and we can match that price.
Me: Why not?
CS: That’s our policy.
Me: Thanks for the information, you have answered all my questions.
CS: Thanks have a nice day.
Now I am scratching my head on what to do. Wait for another sale or send them back and pay the difference?
What a ridiculous return policy. It’s bad enough that jeans cost $60 / pair but not being able to exchange them similar to every other modern business operates is just plain stupid.
Oh man…I just ordered two pairs after losing some weight so hopefully I don’t run into any problems like this. Thanks for the head’s up though!
Levis are not that used to be. Quality is cheap and return policy is worst.
I just have the same experience. Levis has the world’s most lausy return and customer service. This is my first and last purchase from Levis.
Quality control is definitely the issue here or lack of it.
Yesterday purchased 4 pair of 505s and just noticed the red tab on the back pocket is blank. It doesn’t read ” LEVI’S ” . 3 out of the 4 pair have this issue. The fit is perfect.
Their policy hasn’t changed yet . I placed an order and realized that I might have to size up . Any sensible business will give some options to change the order before it’s processed(worst case the CS will have some access to OMS to manually change), but not levis . Once you place the order it’s final (ridiculous) . Now hope the one I ordered fits. Anyways my last order at Levis.com!